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Jay said he loved his jobs in the movies, but beer puts him on a different creative path. In movies, he said, it is a large team effort but audiences rarely know the names of anyone beyond the directors.

"There is a lot of pride in that" work, he said, "but when I am in a room and they are enjoying my beer, that's mine."

(You can reach Staff Writer Sean Scully at 521-5313 or sean.scully@pressdemocrat.com. On Twitter @BeerCountry)